Listen now | LISTENING STATIONS IF THE FILE ABOVE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH: APPLE PODCASTS • AMAZON PODCASTS • SPOTIFY ••• I don’t know if we solved all the worlds problems when it comes to AI and music but it was a super interesting chat all the same. As you’ll find out - other regions of the world are already knee deep in it and care not one iota so long as the end result is good. Perhaps that’s where we are as well but we don’t quite know it? Perhaps a quick look at this weeks chart will reveal to you that a very small percentage of it is played by humans. Perhaps not.
Agreed, fascinating discussion full of challenging ideas and opinions. The way I see it is that anything other than pure analogue is a stepping stone to AI. The German AI radio station is a example of how realistic it can be ( and it’s early days !). In that sense, AI is a natural part of music-making, if we accept synthesisers and suchlike.
Sadly I also see it as yet another example of the loss of humanity from our lives. The human race may come to regret this loss in decades to come. But who knows????
Solid episode! Great discussion and some excellent points made - 'artificial' is baked into the music industry like JJ says with that tiny little cabal of hair metal songwriters masquerading as all our fravourite bands, and we pretty much went with it and talked with our friends about how this band was better than that when it was really - at least when it came to the songwriting - one band with many faces :)
And then there's Moby who has been using synth for decades and writing hugely emotional songs with it. But I guess, for me, the difference is that it's still one guy, Moby, behind it all and he's just using the synth to bring his ideas together. He can (and usually does) play all those instruments he samples. And the vocals are by real people, albeit heavily produced at times.
But what I thought was most interesting about the convo is that you both naturally gravitated back to talking about the joy of physical product and how interacting with it, be it JJ's NME yearbook or your KISS LP, seemed to me to be a much fuller experience. And that maybe hits upon something at the root of this whole conversation - does AI provide an experience or is it missing whatever it is that we are engaging with on those subconscious levels when a human is involved? I don't know - interesting question though :)
Of course when it comes to reality, if you were to ask an Advaita Vedantist they would tell you nothing we're interacting with is real as nothing physical is real at all - it's all just 'maya', an illusion of difference and separateness hiding our one, unified, true, monolithic nature.
Agreed, fascinating discussion full of challenging ideas and opinions. The way I see it is that anything other than pure analogue is a stepping stone to AI. The German AI radio station is a example of how realistic it can be ( and it’s early days !). In that sense, AI is a natural part of music-making, if we accept synthesisers and suchlike.
Sadly I also see it as yet another example of the loss of humanity from our lives. The human race may come to regret this loss in decades to come. But who knows????
Solid episode! Great discussion and some excellent points made - 'artificial' is baked into the music industry like JJ says with that tiny little cabal of hair metal songwriters masquerading as all our fravourite bands, and we pretty much went with it and talked with our friends about how this band was better than that when it was really - at least when it came to the songwriting - one band with many faces :)
And then there's Moby who has been using synth for decades and writing hugely emotional songs with it. But I guess, for me, the difference is that it's still one guy, Moby, behind it all and he's just using the synth to bring his ideas together. He can (and usually does) play all those instruments he samples. And the vocals are by real people, albeit heavily produced at times.
But what I thought was most interesting about the convo is that you both naturally gravitated back to talking about the joy of physical product and how interacting with it, be it JJ's NME yearbook or your KISS LP, seemed to me to be a much fuller experience. And that maybe hits upon something at the root of this whole conversation - does AI provide an experience or is it missing whatever it is that we are engaging with on those subconscious levels when a human is involved? I don't know - interesting question though :)
Of course when it comes to reality, if you were to ask an Advaita Vedantist they would tell you nothing we're interacting with is real as nothing physical is real at all - it's all just 'maya', an illusion of difference and separateness hiding our one, unified, true, monolithic nature.
Great episode :)